Make Timer & Wireless Remotes Work On Lite F/X Fog Machines
Haunting, Theatre September 27th, 2011The Lite F/X 1741 fogger was cheap and readily available a few years ago. Many of us have one or more of them that still work great. One down-side to these fog machines is that it’s tough to find fog timer remotes and wireless remotes that actually work with them. I’ll show you how to make common remotes that are readily available work with these foggers.
When you go down to your local party store, they have fog remotes that have the same kind of connector as the Lite F/X units have, so you’d think that they would be compatible. It’s true that several manufacturers use IEC-320 C13/C14 connectors, but Lite F/X uses one pinout and everybody else uses a different one.
| Pin | Function |
| L | Line |
| N | Neutral |
| O | Output |
The above schematic is drawn as if you are looking at the male connector that is attached to the remote from the pin side. The first thing we notice is that the button connects the same two pins together when you press it. This explains why simple button-and-light remotes from other manufacturers work on the Lite F/X foggers (even though the lights act a little weird), but when you get a fancier remote that requires power from the machine, it does not work.
Most foggers that use this type of connector have the same 3 signals on their pins: Line, Neutral and Output.
- Line: Connects to the “Line” wire of the power plug
- Neutral: Connects to the “Neutral” wire of the power plug
- Output: Hooks to the fog machine’s pump. Connect this pin to the Neutral pin to make the fogger operate.
Looking at the above schematic, we see that the Neutral pin stays the same between all manufacturers, and that the Neutral and Output pins are reversed between Lite F/X and everyone else. This means that it’s a simple task to convert a remote from one standard to the other. You just need to take it apart and reverse the Line and Output wires.
Here’s an example of this mod performed on a fog timer remote that is readily available:
When you take these remotes apart, it’s not immediately obvious why the board doesn’t just come right out. The trick is to desolder the 3 buttons as they are the panel-mount kind and can’t be pulled through the front of the case. There are a total of 6 points you need to desolder:
You’ll need to remove the 2 knobs too. They just pull off. After doing those 2 steps the board should lift right out of the case.
In this remote the Line and Out connections are clearly marked, so we know that we need to swap the white and green wires.
Here’s another example using a wireless remote I found:
Once again the connections are clearly marked on the board, so this is an easy mod. Just swap the white and green wires. Notice a pattern? The manufacturers of these remotes buy their IEC-320 C14 cables pre-made, and since they are typically used as a standard power cable, the same colors always go to the same pins. (Well, mostly. I did find one with a red wire instead of green once). This means that even if you get a remote that doesn’t have the connections labeled anywhere, it’s easy to determine which two wires to swap.
The short version: If you get a fogger remote and it doesn’t work on your Lite F/X fog machine, take the remote apart and swap the white and green wires.
That’s it. Lots of explanation for a simple mod. There aren’t many remotes that are made to work with the Lite/FX foggers right out of the box, but this mod will let you use easy to find but incompatible remotes with your machine.










September 30th, 2011 at 3:49 AM
Thank you for the highly useful directions.
This was super useful in making a timer switch (the same one you used) work on my old Spencer Gifts Super Fogger (spef-80). I also had the mod the plug itself because the housing of the plug was different. The pin pattern was the same, but the plastic around it needed some help.
It might be helpful to the next guy if you could explain how to remove the board from the timer switch housing. I couldn’t get mine out, because the buttons at the bottom somehow lock it all in place. I was able to access the wires which had to be changed just by removing the back cover, but it would have been easier to get the whole board out.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:06 PM
@bholio: Glad it helped. Good point about the buttons. I scratched my head for a minute when I took mine apart wondering why the board wouldn’t come out. I’ve updated the article.
October 7th, 2011 at 8:55 AM
I found this posting very helpful. I went in a slightly different direction though. Instead of modifying the wireless remote I bought, I created a patch cable to go between them. I picked up an IEC male plug from my local electronics dealer, and cut apart a spare power cord with the IEC female. This lets me use non-lite/FX controls on my lite/FX fogger as well as use my lite/FX timer on a non-lite/FX fogger.
October 12th, 2011 at 4:38 AM
Awesome fix man! Tried it out on the wireless remote and worked perfect. Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
October 14th, 2011 at 7:21 PM
I love the Internet. Thanks for the perfect fix-it article.
October 16th, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Thank you for taking the time to post this mod. BTW the Lite F/X configuration is also used by Visual Effects, at least for their VE-925 model. Swap white and green on the cheap timer board worked great. I did need to cut the mitered corners on the timer’s plug to fit into the VE’s completely rectangular socket.
October 19th, 2011 at 11:36 PM
Thank you very much. You saved me $30 and I appricate it. If you ever come through north Alabama I’ll buy you a beer.
October 20th, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Worked great Thanks alot.
October 20th, 2011 at 10:58 AM
You Got one from me as well. Ohio
October 20th, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Sounds like I may have to start my nation-wide “get free beer” tour. Thanks gentlemen! =)
October 21st, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Where or what locations can I purchase the stuff to put in the fogger…I would like to use it on Holloween….. I got this Lite F/X given to me and I have had it stored for several years and never used it.. Would like to this year….I have Model 46121 Witch’s Fogging Cauldron F/X. Please advise… Thank you.
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 PM
HI DOES THIS WORK WITH THE 17556 FX LITE MODEL THANKS
October 27th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Has anyone ever had luck modifying the control knobs? I want less duration and longer interval. (2 – 3 sec spurt every 3-4 minutes)
Thanks
October 28th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
@Sunny: Any party store sells fog fluid this time of year. Most manufacturers tell you to only use their brand of fog fluid, but they’re mostly compatible with each other. I’m not familiar with that particular prop; make sure it’s actually a fog machine rather than a water-cracker like those mist fountains (which just takes water).
@SEB: I’m not sure. Those have hard-wired controllers, don’t they?
@Bob: The duration should already cover that range. Try replacing the interval pot with one that’s twice the existing value.
October 30th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
Do I have to have a remote control (wire or wireless) to operate this machine? TNX
October 31st, 2011 at 7:29 AM
My timer is the same brand as my Fog F/X, this year the timer has stopped working but the manual botton still works. Do you know what could be wrong and how to fix?
Thanks!
October 31st, 2011 at 11:23 AM
@Josef: Yes. There are no controls on the fogger itself (unless you add one, of course!)
@Fariba: You’re going to have to do some circuit troubleshooting to figure that one out, I’m afraid. The manual button is just a button, so there’s not much to go wrong. There’s a fair amount of circuitry involved in the timer part, however, so there isn’t a single point of failure.
November 1st, 2011 at 6:33 AM
interested to know more about fog machine with timers
November 8th, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Thank you for taking the time to post this. Before I found your website I had purchased the same remote timer for my Fog F/X that you show your fix on. Plugged it in and of course it didn’t work. Did your fix and I’m back in business. I did my repair a little different than you show, however. I left the board in place, but had enough extra wire length to just cut the green and white wires, splice, solder, and secure with two small wire nuts that tucked neatly into the remote. Thanks again. I can’t wait till next Halloween!
February 21st, 2012 at 1:16 PM
I have this machine and it will heat up,and as long as the light is not on on the controller it will cycle the pump, once the light comes on it does nothing but puff a small amount every few minutes. I am using a Chauvet wired button with a light,and I chose to rewire the unit not the remote so any will work with this unit.
Any ideas what to do here. I took the pump apart and all seems well there, nothing broken,or clogged.
Thanks
February 29th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
These machines are designed so that the pump will not operate while the heater is on. This article tells you how to “fix” that: http://www.modd3d.com/articles/item/always-ready-mod-for-lite-fx-fogger
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April 21st, 2012 at 7:59 AM
Thank you so much for posting thses instructions. I bought this item online from america for £20 as you cant buy them in the UK. I was sooo dissapointed to find out that it didnt work after waiting 30 days for it to arrive. Thankfully I kept it just in case.
August 20th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
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August 20th, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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August 23rd, 2012 at 4:48 PM
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August 27th, 2012 at 1:41 AM
finished.
September 29th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Dude, you rule. I don’t know how you figured that out, but I thank you for it! I thought I’d have to buy a whole new fog machine just to be able to time fog bursts, but everything’s working great now with my F/X machine.
October 9th, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Would this mod work for adding a timer to a machine that has a hard-wired push button control? I have an old Silver Rain DK-F006R that I would like to add a control too.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Not exactly as written, because that fogger doesn’t use the connector for the remote that the others do. The basic remote looks like the same type of setup, though (3 wires, neon light, button), so you should be able to figure out what wire goes to what in the wired remote and use the information here to adapt one of the other remotes.
October 24th, 2012 at 5:20 PM
Bought the exact same one from Spirit Halloween and tried but it will not work…it was my first time soldering…green light will come on (sometimes) but the yellow and red button will not function at all. Do you have any advice?
October 24th, 2012 at 5:32 PM
Do you have a multimeter? I’d start by unhooking everything and making sure all your connections are actually making contact (even while being wiggled).
October 24th, 2012 at 6:21 PM
No but I will go get one and give it a try…thank you:)
October 27th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Would it not be a lot easier to just flip them inside the Lite F/X unit? I looked inside, looks like it would take like 10 seconds.
They just plug on the power jack inside. Would this not do the same thing? Yes? No?
October 27th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I decided to do it your way, works great! However, I found I did not have to unsolder, take apart the rest though. Just unsolder the 2 wires, pulled them free, cut back extra insulation, and soldered them on top. Clean, neat, and still as strong as before. It took like 3 minutes!
October 27th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
@David: Yes, it would work to flip the connections inside the fogger, too. It just comes down to deciding which standard you want to stick to. I have a bunch of Lite F/X compatible stuff already, so I modded the remotes. If you have newer foggers you want to keep your remotes compatible with then it would make more sense to mod the Lite F/X unit.
Nice job on soldering!
October 31st, 2012 at 11:51 PM
I did it:) I desoldered everything again and tried again:) For the first time this Halloween our fog machine was set up and I didn’t need one of the kids to press the button…you rock:) Now for next Halloween I want to try and make the box that keeps the fog low to the ground:) Thank you:)
November 28th, 2012 at 6:40 PM
Awesome! Glad I could help! =)